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Tue May 2, 2006 Miss Vicky 

This is for Liss76 and amckay, primarily.... I attended the Hintonburg Community Association's meeting with the architect proposing a new development on Grant St. It's hard to tell from the signs posted there, but what is being proposed is a duplex (they call it a linked detached, but basically what that means it a duplex that is not side-by-side) - two units, one set further back. Three stories but not much higher than the existing house 2 doors to the east, and well within current height restrictions. Contrary to the info Liss got, there is space between the proposed structure and the surrounding properties - a few metres in the back (there will be a fenced backyard), and some space on each side as well. Not too much between the house to the west - about 4 feet, as that other house is only a few inches off the property line. Parking is in the front - one space for each home - but will be offset by a raised veranda which will extend partially over one of the spaces. First floor will be mostly glass which will also make it more approachable, according to the architect.

The drawings looked OK. They did a shadow study and the homes around do not seem to be adversely affected, except one house on Armstrong which will lose some spring morning sun. The design is quite modern; the architect argued that there is a lot of diversity in the neighbourhood architecture as it stands. The units are being built for his daughter and one of his colleagues, by the way. This is the same guy who did the much-hated triangle house on Fairmont and Sherwood. Now, I think that house is kind of funky but it doesn't quite fit with the surrounding properties, that's for sure. And I do have a thing for interesting design. This Grant St structure might actually add an interesting dimension to the 'hood. Certainly the fellow on the other end with the various front yard ornaments and the van covered with reflectors is more of a conversation piece!

The neighbours who attended the meeting seemed fine - there was some concern about the parking but that seemed to be allayed somewhat. So it doesn't look like the association will oppose the variance.

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amckay May 5, 2006 03:45 PM said:

Well, I haven't been back since the discussion on child care, but figured you would have something on this so dropped by to check. We were horrified when we saw the proposal, although reading what you wrote it does not sound all that bad. I think they could have helped their cause quite a bit by providing better information to the neighbours - including an architects drawing of the finished product, along with a map to show the layout. It was really difficult to imagine from the text descriptions.

We couldn't make it to the Community Association thing the other night because I had a church council meeting and had already missed the last two of them.

FWIW here is the letter I wrote to the email address on the info we got. I feel a bit better reading what you wrote, but would like to see the drawings and map (is there a word like "floorplans" in this case? - brain fart) myself.

BTW, this probably means that our house is worth more if we tear it down when we move back to NS in a couple of years. A lot more. Sad, really ...

---snip---


[ letter snipped - in hindsight parts of it are not something i want public, for various reasons. the jist was very much - us == not at all thrilled. ]

[Edited By amckay May 07, 2006 07:40 AM]

Miss Vicky May 5, 2006 04:15 PM said:

Apparently the architect was as cheesed about the city's description as you - which was why it was good to go see the plans. Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about this development. I don't think he's trying to make a quick buck; the homes are for the architect's daughter and colleague, not for flipping. And this is definitely no Barrhaven cookie-cutter, that's for sure.

Miss Vicky May 5, 2006 04:17 PM said:

The other thing to point out that not too many of the existing houses fit within zoning requirements either - this was a very interesting tidbit to learn!

The Webgeek May 5, 2006 04:28 PM said:

good to have you back, Amkay

Honestly.

the discussions have been pretty sparce without you ;)

liss76 May 5, 2006 04:30 PM said:

I would guess that, on our street anyway, a lot of the houses predate the zoning requirements. ;o)

Miss Vicky May 5, 2006 05:11 PM said:

exactly.

liss76 May 9, 2006 11:07 AM said:

*shrug* I dunno. That's one of the things that bother me. It smacks of "well, if they were allowed to do it back when Christ was a cowboy.."

We have zoning requirements for a reason. Just like we have building codes for a reason--something else that (our house, anyway) a lot of these older homes potentially predate.

Anyway, what is done is done. I'm not very happy about that corner of our street being so built-up. I don't think it will do much for the street scape at all, except make that end of it feel closed in and alley-like--especially if it's moved closer to the street.

And the Deaves are an Ottawa landmark at this point. Seriously. I told someone where I lived and they automatically asked if the Deaves still lived in that area.

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